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About 9pm that night Anderson sent a text to Chris Oliver-Taylor saying:
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We have an Antoinette issue, the socials are full of anti semitic hatred.
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Neil quoted the text message from Anderson:
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Not sure we can have someone on the air that suggests that Hamas should return to their ethnic cleansing in Gaza and move on to the West Bank.
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Oliver-Taylor then sent a text message to Anderson saying:
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I think this is hugely problematic.
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Oliver-Taylor emailed radio managers Ahern and Melkman and the radio chief Ben Latimer, saying:
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I think we have a problem.
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Ahern, who hired Lattouf, replies:
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Thank you, Chris. Does she need to come off air? If so, it can be done, but may disruptive if done tomorrow.
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The hearing has briefly adjourned.
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Ian Neil SC is continuing with his opening statement, taking the judge through the chronology of events which includes emails and contemporaneous notes.
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David Anderson then spoke to both the manager of ABC Radio Sydney, Steve Ahern, who hired Lattouf for the casual shifts, and to content director Elizabeth Green.
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Ahern advised Green to caution Lattouf about posting on Gaza and not to give the complainants any more ammunition, Neil said. A contemporaneous note by Green read:
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Don’t give ammunition, best not to post whilst here.
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Anderson asked whether Lattouf would be covering the Israel-Gaza war during her shifts and was told she would not.
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Ahern told Anderson that Lattouf had been identified as a future, potential presenter for ABC Radio:
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Her background is Lebanese-Christian. She grew up in western Sydney, the child of Lebanese immigrants.
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She’d been selected in part having regard to the ABC’s diversity policy.
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Now Neil is taking Rangiah through the chronology of events.
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Lattouf presented her first show on the Monday 18 December and, 90 minutes after she came off air, the ABC began to receive emails complaining about her, Neil said.
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David Anderson forwarded some of those complaints to the chief content officer Chris Oliver-Taylor and acting editorial director Simon Melkman with the request to investigate the matter and provide advice.
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Neil said Anderson had written in an email:
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Can we ensure that Antoinette is not and has not been posting anything that would suggest she is not impartial.
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I am concerned her public views may mean that she is in conflict with our own editorial policies.
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Anderson also asked why Lattouf had been selected as a stand-in host.
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Justice Darryl Rangiah has opened proceedings and warned the public not to record or screenshot the broadcast of the hearing on the federal court’s YouTube channel.
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The ABC’s barrister Ian Neil SC is first up to present his opening statement. Neil says he will unveil the “true sequence of all the salient events” leading up to Lattouf’s termination.
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The applicant’s opening statement “jumbled the chronology of events and omitted salient events”, Neil said.
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Neil tells the court he is initially going to examine the contract between Lattouf and the ABC.
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Hi, I’m Amanda Meade, media correspondent, I’m watching day three of the Antoinette Lattouf v ABC unfair termination trial today.
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We will bring you all the evidence as it unfolds from 10.15am though to 4.15pm.
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Witnesses today include two ABC chiefs David Anderson and chief content officer Chris Oliver-Taylor, both of whom are on the verge of leaving the ABC after early resignations.
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The Antoinette Lattouf v ABC hearing continues today in Sydney’s federal court with the ABC managing director, David Anderson, the next witness to be called.
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The hearing schedule is already a day behind, the court was told yesterday, as Lattouf’s cross-examination lasted five hours and extended over two days.
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Lattouf’s barrister Oshie Fagir said:
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The party’s schedule has been completely exploded. We’re a day behind after two days.
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Lattouf was taken off-air three days into a five-day casual contract in December 2023 after she posted on social media about the Israel-Gaza war, which the ABC said was a failure to follow a direction from a manager not to post.
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The federal court heard yesterday that Lattouf disputes that she was given a direction, claiming her manager Elizabeth Green merely suggested she stick to factual posts only.
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Lattouf took her case to the Fair Work Commission, which found last year she had been sacked but did not rule on whether it was an unlawful termination.
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The ABC argued at the commission that Lattouf had not been sacked because she was paid for the full five days of her contract.
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Green’s evidence is scheduled for Thursday.
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Key events
‘Does she need to come off air?’ – chain of ABC messages read out in court
Neil, for the ABC, says after the decision to keep Lattouf on air had been made on Monday afternoon, Anderson discovered some of her earlier social media activity that troubled him. Anderson believed it may conflict with the ABC’s impartiality requirements and the perception of impartiality, the court heard.
About 9pm that night Anderson sent a text to Chris Oliver-Taylor saying:
We have an Antoinette issue, the socials are full of anti semitic hatred.
Neil quoted the text message from Anderson:
Not sure we can have someone on the air that suggests that Hamas should return to their ethnic cleansing in Gaza and move on to the West Bank.
Oliver-Taylor then sent a text message to Anderson saying:
I think this is hugely problematic.
Oliver-Taylor emailed radio managers Ahern and Melkman and the radio chief Ben Latimer, saying:
I think we have a problem.
Ahern, who hired Lattouf, replies:
Thank you, Chris. Does she need to come off air? If so, it can be done, but may disruptive if done tomorrow.
The hearing has briefly adjourned.
ABC silk tells court how broadcaster planned to warn Lattouf about posts
Continuing his opening statement, Ian Neil SC submits that by the afternoon of Lattouf’s first day on air the complaints about her hiring had been dealt with.
It was agreed by David Anderson and all the ABC managers involved that she would be warned not to post about Israel and Gaza and would remain on air until Friday as she had been hired to do.
Neil tells the court:
In our submission, this is the end of any influence that the fact or content of complaints that the ABC received about Ms Lattouf had on any of the salient events.
The complaints had been received. They had been looked at. It had been appreciated that the complaints focused not on anything that Ms Lattouf had done or said on air.
Lattouf was ‘selected in part’ for role because of ABC diversity policy, court hears
Ian Neil SC is continuing with his opening statement, taking the judge through the chronology of events which includes emails and contemporaneous notes.
David Anderson then spoke to both the manager of ABC Radio Sydney, Steve Ahern, who hired Lattouf for the casual shifts, and to content director Elizabeth Green.
Ahern advised Green to caution Lattouf about posting on Gaza and not to give the complainants any more ammunition, Neil said. A contemporaneous note by Green read:
Don’t give ammunition, best not to post whilst here.
Anderson asked whether Lattouf would be covering the Israel-Gaza war during her shifts and was told she would not.
Ahern told Anderson that Lattouf had been identified as a future, potential presenter for ABC Radio:
Her background is Lebanese-Christian. She grew up in western Sydney, the child of Lebanese immigrants.
She’d been selected in part having regard to the ABC’s diversity policy.
How complaints started and Lattouf’s impartiality was questioned
The contract between Lattouf and the ABC for one week of shifts on the Mornings program on ABC Radio Sydney in December 2023 is being dissected by Ian Neil SC.
Now Neil is taking Rangiah through the chronology of events.
Lattouf presented her first show on the Monday 18 December and, 90 minutes after she came off air, the ABC began to receive emails complaining about her, Neil said.
David Anderson forwarded some of those complaints to the chief content officer Chris Oliver-Taylor and acting editorial director Simon Melkman with the request to investigate the matter and provide advice.
Neil said Anderson had written in an email:
Can we ensure that Antoinette is not and has not been posting anything that would suggest she is not impartial.
I am concerned her public views may mean that she is in conflict with our own editorial policies.
Anderson also asked why Lattouf had been selected as a stand-in host.
Lattouf ‘jumbled chronology of events and omitted salient events’, ABC barrister argues
Justice Darryl Rangiah has opened proceedings and warned the public not to record or screenshot the broadcast of the hearing on the federal court’s YouTube channel.
The ABC’s barrister Ian Neil SC is first up to present his opening statement. Neil says he will unveil the “true sequence of all the salient events” leading up to Lattouf’s termination.
The applicant’s opening statement “jumbled the chronology of events and omitted salient events”, Neil said.
Neil tells the court he is initially going to examine the contract between Lattouf and the ABC.
Five things we’ve learned this week in court
Just to bring everyone up to speed, Lattouf was cross-examined for five gruelling hours over two days – here you can read about five things we have learned from her sometimes tense, sometimes tearful testimony.
Three top ABC executives scheduled to give evidence
David Anderson is the outgoing managing director who is finishing up next month after a 35-year career at the broadcaster, during which he rose from the mailroom to mahogany row.
He was appointed for a second term on 1 July 2023 and was supposed to be in the role until July 2028 but resigned months after Kim Williams joined the ABC as chair.
He is not the only one of the ABC witnesses to be caught up in the trial despite having either left or being in the process of leaving.
Williams’ predecessor Ita Buttrose, who left the ABC almost a year ago, is to give her evidence on Friday.
Content chief Chris Oliver-Taylor, who is scheduled to appear after Anderson, is also almost out the door.
What we can expect in court today
The Antoinette Lattouf v ABC hearing continues today in Sydney’s federal court with the ABC managing director, David Anderson, the next witness to be called.
The hearing schedule is already a day behind, the court was told yesterday, as Lattouf’s cross-examination lasted five hours and extended over two days.
Lattouf’s barrister Oshie Fagir said:
The party’s schedule has been completely exploded. We’re a day behind after two days.
Lattouf was taken off-air three days into a five-day casual contract in December 2023 after she posted on social media about the Israel-Gaza war, which the ABC said was a failure to follow a direction from a manager not to post.
The federal court heard yesterday that Lattouf disputes that she was given a direction, claiming her manager Elizabeth Green merely suggested she stick to factual posts only.
Lattouf took her case to the Fair Work Commission, which found last year she had been sacked but did not rule on whether it was an unlawful termination.
The ABC argued at the commission that Lattouf had not been sacked because she was paid for the full five days of her contract.
Green’s evidence is scheduled for Thursday.
Welcome
Hi, I’m Amanda Meade, media correspondent, I’m watching day three of the Antoinette Lattouf v ABC unfair termination trial today.
We will bring you all the evidence as it unfolds from 10.15am though to 4.15pm.
Witnesses today include two ABC chiefs David Anderson and chief content officer Chris Oliver-Taylor, both of whom are on the verge of leaving the ABC after early resignations.
